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1. 1. IndianPad said on October 22nd, 2006 at 7:57 pm

   More on Guruji.com - Web search or Local search?…

   More on Guruji.com - Web search or Local search? posted at IndianPad.com…

2. 2. DesiPundit » Archives » Guruji.com, Web search or Local Search said on October 23rd, 2006 at 11:12 am

   [...] Madhur has lots to say on Guruji.com, apparently the hottest new search startup on the block. [...]

3. 3. Vaibhav Domkundwar - india 2.0 said on October 23rd, 2006 at 7:54 pm

   Madhur, I agree. But think of what the competitive advantages can be to create a barrier to entry.

   For local language content, how much content is to be crawled? How difficult it is incrementally for Google or Yahoo? Is there is fundamentally basic problem like chinese language search, in hindi or marathi or tamil?

   For local search, I think the problem really centers around lack of the base local content itself, to search across.

   We have been considering/thinking through this at Better Labs and all the recent momentum in the space is awesome. It definitely helps to see more opinions which can help extrapolate what the users want. So far, local search is clearly the message I am seeing from most of the blog posts and comments.

4. 4. Madhur said on October 23rd, 2006 at 8:59 pm

   Vaibhav,

   Great points. While the local language data may not be a whole lot right now, there is a fair bit of agreement in the circles that it will rise with Internet penetration increasing at a healthy rate. The search problem does get tricky when handling different languages esp. when you start doing advanced stuff like natural language parsing, concept searches, etc. Another interesting thing is building a good UI to let users enter their query in a non-clunky way. And the fact that there maybe 5 or 6 different ones in India will make that only worse, Having said that, it may be that its already in the works at other places like BigG and Y!, so I cant really comment on barrier to entry for them, but for a starter, definetely yes. I also think that the investment on this depends on whether it makes sense to invest in building this technology compared to the the revenues you can get out of this as the online advertising market in India right now is only a fraction of other markets like US or even China.

   Agree with you on local search. To be really comprehensive in India about the content, there has to be data from alternate sources such as yellow pages, directory listings, etc. I am researching a bit more in this area and will be posting about that in the future if I get any meaningful information.

5. 5. Madhur said on October 23rd, 2006 at 11:01 pm

   Also while on this topic, Raftaar is one player that I know of that indexes Hindi content and lets users search for that.

   From http://www.thebrandreporter.com/perl/tbr/afaqs_link.html
   “Raftaar.com lets users to search online content in Hindi by typing the keyword using its phonetic equivalent in Roman letters. For instance, keying in ‘bazaar’ leads to the Hindi word for ‘market.’ According to Peeyush Bajpai, Raftaar is not the conventional search engine. It integrates features like spell check and cluster search which is category-specific.”

6. 6. Dev said on October 24th, 2006 at 4:35 am

   I am not too sure if Guruji.com will catch on in the indian space. Its very different world altogether. People search for specific stuffs around their city are miniscual, I think. And for a search engine to grow, it would need mass user base in the shortest period of time.

   But never the less, the crawler algorithm is pretty efficient. I did find in few case, close to what ever I was looking for in guruji.

7. 7. C Ramesh said on October 24th, 2006 at 10:23 am

   Hi

   Enabling search with local language input is something that the biggies have ignored so far. I hope the guys at Guruji think about it.

   [self-promotion alert] Meanwhile, we at http://www.pdstext.com have solved that problem for Tamil users, to begin with. You can search Google, Yahoo! and MSN in Tamil directly from within the site. We plan to add support for other major Indian languages. [self-promotion ends]

8. 8. Sajal said on October 29th, 2006 at 3:26 am

   Madhur / Vaibav

   In my option the key to success for a search engine like Guruji as rightly identified by Vaibav is local content, how much local information do you get looking beyond pizzas in Bangalore today? The Indian web spear is woefully short of local content that today.

   Secondly the Indian users base needs need to reach the 100 million mark that we are talking about. Currently we are stuck at the 30 ~ 40 million levels for some time now.

   Having said that it is for sites such as Guruji to take the challenge and address this, there is a big market soon to get ripe !!

   All the best Anurag & Gaurav

9. 9. Madhur said on October 29th, 2006 at 7:58 am

   Sajal,

   Your point is well taken. Like I wrote in an earlier post, I believe local content and alternative interface are going to be the key drivers for Guruji’s growth.

   Onyomo and JustDial are going to be a competitor to look for as far as these areas are concerned.

   Madhur

10. 10. Vivek Garg said on October 30th, 2006 at 5:44 am

    I think you guys hit the nail on the head. Lack of local search content is a problem in India for crawl based search engines. Also directory listing can go so far and they hardly have any context to search on.

    What do you do when you dont have content? You create it. But wait. We are talking about huge amount of local content. And the best people to create it are the people using these local businesses every day. Let’s throw in these users to manage the scale of this problem. And the solution is “social activity and review based search engine”. Players like Burrp and Yelp have this angle. And I think they have a better shot to answer local queries in India.

    Google actually gets reviews from yelp and citysearch at maps.google.com as a special tab. IMHO guruji and onyomo will have to do something similar.

11. 11. iLeher » Exclusive interview with CEO of Guruji.com - All about Internet industry in India said on November 9th, 2006 at 9:42 am

    [...] I wrote about Guruji.com on the very first day of their press release and then followed up with another post clarifying on what they are doing. My initial response was skeptic as I didn’t quite get what their value proposition was. Local search definitely sounded like an opportunity but that clearly wasn’t their main (or only) focus. In the Indian content search area, Google.co.in already seemed to be doing a good enough job. I am sure some of you would have got similar doubts, but hey, they are backed by Sequoia and generated quite a bit of buzz in the media. I had a chat with Anurag Dod, their CEO and asked a few questions to clarify some of the doubts. [...]

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